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Annodex Foundation Committee Meeting Minutes

4th September 2006, opened: 20:25, closed: 22:21 on irc #anxfnd

Secretary: Silvia Pfeiffer

Chaired by: Jeff Waugh

Agenda:

0) Minutes & email issues

1) Incorporation - next steps

2) Relationship with CSIRO - next steps

3) Hosting solutions - next steps

4) A separate profile for CMML

5) Other business

In Attendance:

Jeff Waugh, chair

Conrad Parker, vice-chair

James Purser, treasurer

Silvia Pfeiffer, secretary

Michael Smith, ordinary member

Zen Kavanagh, ordinary member

Absent:

Andre Pang, ordinary member


Minutes:

0) Previous Minutes and email issues:

  • annodex.org wiki is up again - thanks to Shane Stephens at CSIRO
  • ratified the following minutes:

June http://annodex.org/wiki/Committee/Meetings/2006_06_05/

July http://annodex.org/wiki/Committee/Meetings/2006_07_03/

August http://annodex.org/wiki/Committee/Meetings/2006_08_07/ .

  • sorted illi's email issues wrt committee mailing list


1) Incorporation:

Bruce's Offer

Bruce Badger of OpenSkills offered to re-incorporate OpenSkills as Annodex Foundation instead of

having to start a new Company Ltd By Guarantee (i.e. Australia-wide incorporation). After some

research, we found that the costs of such a name change will be the same as a new incorporation

and the renaming process would be more effort than a new incorporation, thus this idea was rejected.


Discussion

  • Australia does not know country-wide incorporated associations.
  • The only options we have are "Company Ltd By Guarantee" (AU-wide) or "Incorporated Association" (state-wide).


As Company Ltd by Guarantee we:

  • can keep the name Annodex Foundation
  • have a constitution and can reuse what we've done so far
  • have to pay $330 for incorporation
  • have to have an annual audit by a professional accountant ($1000 fee + accountant fees)
  • can get a reduced annual audit fee if we get charitable status($40 fee)

We would require membership fees to run such an organisation, but that was not deemed productive for community members.


Alternatives discussed:

  • Linux Australia Subcommittee, that trades as "Annodex Foundation"

-> Annodex is more than a Linux project, so this might reject some people

-> we don't know if this is legally possible

-> could it own the Annodex Trademark?

-> the Annodex Trademark is an Australian Trademark, so attribution to a US body doesn't really make much sense

  • incorporate an association under a different name


ACTIONS:

  • James to check with LA about the potential of a subcommittee and its legal status


2) Relationship with CSIRO:

  • Conrad will have left CSIRO in October, but Shane Stephens is now running the Annodex servers there.
  • We still desire Trademark ownership and potentially patent transfer.
  • We do not understand CSIRO's expectations wrt Trademark transfer.


ACTIONS:

  • Jeff to approach CSIRO again
  • Conrad to get Shane involved in CSIRO discussions
  • Silvia to invite Shane to next committee meeting


3) Hosting solutions:

  • CSIRO seems committed to Annodex with Shane Stephens and Jose Lay and a replacement for Conrad; with CeNTIE continuing through to August 2007, hosting is secure until then
  • if CSIRO at any point ceases to support Annodex with hosting, we should endevour to create a Xiph subproject and host with xiph.org
  • failing that, we could host with Linux Australia


4) CMML needs a separate profile:

  • The committee had a short discussion on this issue for lack of time.
  • Silvia had people asking if it was possible to use CMML without Ogg
  • Silvia suggested creating a new domain or sub-domain for cmml to give it a more independent status and to give it a stronger brand
  • Zen suggested to have an icon similar to the rss icon to signify that there is a CMML behind this media file on the server
  • The committee was split over the issue of supporting CMML to live with non-free formats.


5) Other business:

none.

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